Re: rogue nins

Tsengu Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:50 am

I agree, I believe once you become a Chuunin, that's when you can go rogue, until then you won't be able to attack anyone in your village and they won't be able to attack you.

conradxu Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:20 am

but you should know, you dont NEED to kill other players, its optional, so i think it will be a fun game play style.

Sw0rdm3n Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:04 pm

Umaterasu wrote:
Sw0rdm3n wrote:Rogue ninjas.

To become a rogue ninja you must be Lvl A+ criminal.
There will be no penalty for being one, other than that anyone can kill you and hunt you for reward.
In other words, other people will be able to attack you and kill you(if they are able)with no penalty, and if they do kill you
they receive a reward.

So being rogue ninja would not be a good idea if you dont want to die over and over again. (unless your a high lvl , thats a diff story)

euumm..i think you should be able to become a rogue ninja at least at the Chuunin level and not at a Lvl A-Rank+. The Demon Brothers of The Mist weren't A-Ranked ninjas but they were still rogue nins

True, But to become A lvl criminal you can be genin and still be A lvl criminal.
And as i stated in pk\pvp system explanation, once u get to A+ rank criminal, you are kicked from the village, and you are officialy a rogue ninja.

conradxu Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:04 pm

but should should add alot of disadvantages to it, so not everyone will become one. oh and make it so that it is hard to become one

Umaterasu Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:23 pm

conradxu wrote:but should should add alot of disadvantages to it, so not everyone will become one. oh and make it so that it is hard to become one

No not alot of disadvantages. They will have equal advantages. Example: Rogue Nins can have some things that normal Nins can't have. But disadvantaging people because they decided to become rogue nins is quite unfair. But I would suggest for those who want to become rogue nins to have good stats because they will be ambushed alot Razz

Sw0rdm3n Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:58 pm

conradxu wrote:but should should add alot of disadvantages to it, so not everyone will become one. oh and make it so that it is hard to become one

If you choose to become a rogue ninja. People will hunt you just for money. If you decide to go train your stats and encount other person, he will be able to attack you with no penalty. He will only get money for killing you, and what ever items you drop.

So if you think about it, this is very big disadvantage.

conradxu Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:08 pm

but your only implying that for average people. what if hes one of the strongest players in the game. its quite unfair to the weaker people, because hes a rouge nin, he will be able to withstand almost every attack

Umaterasu Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:17 pm

conradxu wrote:but your only implying that for average people. what if hes one of the strongest players in the game. its quite unfair to the weaker people, because hes a rouge nin, he will be able to withstand almost every attack

Well honestly...what can we do about that O.o?. If he's one of the strongest its because he worked hard for it. We can't penalize him just for that. Then if that's the case then ask the Strongest player (not a GM >.>, or a rogue ninja) to kill him Very Happy

or somethin

Sw0rdm3n Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:23 pm

Umaterasu wrote:
conradxu wrote:but your only implying that for average people. what if hes one of the strongest players in the game. its quite unfair to the weaker people, because hes a rouge nin, he will be able to withstand almost every attack

Well honestly...what can we do about that O.o?. If he's one of the strongest its because he worked hard for it. We can't penalize him just for that. Then if that's the case then ask the Strongest player (not a GM >.>, or a rogue ninja) to kill him or somethin

Well if he gets teamed by couple of avarage players he can die.

This game will take large part of skill, not only stats. so for example a lvl 40 would be able to kill lvl 80, but the odds are highly against him, But its possible.

And for example if u take like nara, lee, and some other guy, nara could freeze the high lvl lee could whip out lots of damage
all clans will have there advatages and disadvatages compared to other clans.

Tsengu Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:23 am

Couldn't of put it better myself lol.

conradxu Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:47 am

ahh, finally a good answer.
skill. so this would be like counterstrike? "shoot first to kill" or "if your target is in range, so are you" i think skill should only be a moderate factor otherwise. leveling wouldnt be required. would it?

Umaterasu Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:59 am

We are implementing levels

Sw0rdm3n Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:27 pm

conradxu wrote:ahh, finally a good answer.
skill. so this would be like counterstrike? "shoot first to kill" or "if your target is in range, so are you" i think skill should only be a moderate factor otherwise. leveling wouldnt be required. would it?

It will be both sill and stats.

Both will play large role. But it will be balanced so, that for example your lvl 80, fighting lvl 40. There is a chance that lvl 40 could kill you, based on his build, and how well he plays...
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By skill i mean, when you fight you will have the ability to outrun your oponent, to dodge his jutsu,taijutsu attack.
But to dodge the attacks you will have to press buttons.
Like left side quick dodge would be
D->D(2 fast clicks on button 2 will make u flash step to the left making a dodge action.) It will be a little bit like gunz if you think about it, but much diffrent.

But stats will matter, and they will give you a huge advatage. But stats will not be playing only role in the game.

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you could be lvl 80 with

4000 tai
2000 nin
2000 gen

and you could fight

lvl 40 thats
4000 nin
0 tai
0 gen

so you see he would be able to do a lot of damage, but he would lack some skills, and hp and chakra to compare to you.

Hao Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:18 am

the best thing to do is to be able to get bounty's on ur head if ur a rouge nin and when u leave the village u get -10% exp or something like that

Umaterasu Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:46 am

Hao wrote:the best thing to do is to be able to get bounty's on ur head if ur a rouge nin and when u leave the village u get -10% exp or something like that

I think that that is really a disadvantage for those who chooses to become a rogue nins. Being a rogue nin is not something bad...why should we take them off -10%? I think they should have some advantages that normal Ninjas can't have

Hao Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:18 am

-10% exp would keep balance between villages so that not many ppl would live the village, and they would be abble to rob other players or get unique mission like assassination from certain NPCs

Sw0rdm3n Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:13 pm

Hao wrote:-10% exp would keep balance between villages so that not many ppl would live the village, and they would be abble to rob other players or get unique mission like assassination from certain NPCs

Nah I dont like the idea of anyone loosing exp when they die.

live-evil Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:22 pm

i agree

Umaterasu Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:23 pm

Sw0rdm3n wrote:
Hao wrote:-10% exp would keep balance between villages so that not many ppl would live the village, and they would be abble to rob other players or get unique mission like assassination from certain NPCs

Nah I dont like the idea of anyone loosing exp when they die.

What he was saying is that they lose exp when they quit the village

Sw0rdm3n Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:28 pm

Umaterasu wrote:
Sw0rdm3n wrote:
Hao wrote:-10% exp would keep balance between villages so that not many ppl would live the village, and they would be abble to rob other players or get unique mission like assassination from certain NPCs

Nah I dont like the idea of anyone loosing exp when they die.

What he was saying is that they lose exp when they quit the village

ohh yea, thats not a bad idea.

Umaterasu Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:42 pm

I don't really like it :S

live-evil Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:06 pm

yea exp shouldn't be raised or lowered in any condition

Rave Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:51 am

i dont like losing EXP either, so we'll have to put some conditions for rogue nins, so that not everybody would do it, or they would think twice b4 doing it, each side would have its own advantages.

Sithex Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:32 am

The biggest advantage of being a missing nin is you can use any Jutsu, forbidden or not that is possible with your character without any permission from the Kage plus you can become a s-rank free rein ninja that is just as powerfull if not more then a Kage status Twisted Evil

Poorer countries might just rely on a Missing Nin as a defence as they recieve fatty pay$ or trade say jutsu's/secerets Very Happy

let alone missing nin groups.

Umaterasu Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:01 pm

Sithex wrote:Poorer countries might just rely on a Missing Nin as a defence as they recieve fatty pay$ or trade say jutsu's/secerets let alone missing nin groups.

Hmm...I'm not sure that country's will rely on missing nin in the game because there won't be any small villages without ninjas (or are we going to have some O.o?) that will pay missing nins to pretect them.

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