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Post  Shinija Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:43 pm

Alrighty another Suprise from Sorlaize and Me(You're getting part of the credit too XD)


Hacking and Banning...We've been argueing that we need GM'S!WELL We Do Need NOT Gm's!

The Auto-Ban Fuction will act as a GM only in Bot Form!

If the auto ban fuction do not work the only option is a player Screen Shotting that hacker and post it on the forums...

Arn't we great? Its good to have idea's seriously =D
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Post  chaotrix2 Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:50 pm

yes, that's good for when the game is sparsly populated. However, when the game picks up a bit more, maybe GM's will be needed?
After all hackers are very clever people, there will be at least a handful who manage to successfully get around a auto-ban.
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Post  Tsengu Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:16 pm

Exactly, I still believe we will need GMs for when the game gets big. As what chaotrix said, hackers are clever people.. some claim to be hackers but are kids who will just get stopped by the auto-ban. Others will actually be able to move around it at some point or another.
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Post  Pjotrkiller Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:18 pm

If you need a GM talk to me xD But yea, I think we need GM's, most hackers are really smart. How about getting GameGaurd xD Most MMORPGs has gamegaurd. Or can't you just GET it? I dunno lol.
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Post  Tsengu Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:20 pm

I think we need something, but perhaps as Sorlaize says we can actually code in a crazy effective anti-hacking program.
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Post  Shinija Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:25 pm

We Are not using Gm's first

They Will Be Over-Powered...The Auto-Ban Will act as a gm other then that its ScreenShot and Post on forums
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Post  Pjotrkiller Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:28 pm

lol
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Post  Tsengu Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:30 pm

Even if we did use GMs it would be people from the team. As I am sure we would all not abuse our powers. Once again, if we could code a VERY effective auto-banning tool... then I would stand behind it 100%.
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Post  Shinija Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:33 pm

Tsengu wrote:Even if we did use GMs it would be people from the team. As I am sure we would all not abuse our powers. Once again, if we could code a VERY effective auto-banning tool... then I would stand behind it 100%.



TRUSS ME YOU WON'T LIKE BEING GM!Even Me and Sorlaize don't like it


GM abilities :
-teleport to character
-teleport some1 to himself
-Hide as in 100% opacity
-Give a notice ingame
-teleport to a monster index

No Banning or Event Hosting...
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Post  Pjotrkiller Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:35 pm

Shinija wrote:
Tsengu wrote:Even if we did use GMs it would be people from the team. As I am sure we would all not abuse our powers. Once again, if we could code a VERY effective auto-banning tool... then I would stand behind it 100%.



TRUSS ME YOU WON'T LIKE BEING GM!Even Me and Sorlaize don't like it


GM abilities :
-teleport to character
-teleport some1 to himself
-Hide as in 100% opacity
-Give a notice ingame
-teleport to a monster index

No Banning or Event Hosting...

Lol Maby the Hokage/Kazakage etc... Can be GM lol (Joke Razz)
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Post  mdude186 Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:35 pm

Why are you guys talking about this now....the game isn't even finished and your worrying about the hackers? Personally...from being one myself in many games.(i've never been caught) there are many ways people have come up with to get around things. Stoping the magarity is good. But those few...just leave them alone. they will get bored and stop. I would know. Always happens to me.

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Post  Shinija Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:36 pm

Pjotrkiller wrote:If you need a GM talk to me xD But yea, I think we need GM's, most hackers are really smart. How about getting GameGaurd xD Most MMORPGs has gamegaurd. Or can't you just GET it? I dunno lol.


MapleStory has GameGuard yet they have Auto-Ban?
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Post  Tsengu Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:38 pm

Maplestory has GameGuard... hmm.
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Post  Sorlaize Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:39 pm

I'll make sure there's some AI that detects strange behaviour that may be a hacker.

For instance, checking for lots of attacks in a short timeframe.

And then seeing if players do nothing for a while (might be a hacker doing something while the game runs.)
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Post  Tsengu Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:43 pm

That's fine, as long as it doesn't accuse alot of innocent people of hacking when they aren't.

Note: Your sig doesn't show up Sad.
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Post  Umaterasu Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:36 am

Shinija wrote:We Are not using Gm's first

They Will Be Over-Powered...The Auto-Ban Will act as a gm other then that its ScreenShot and Post on forums

GM will not be needed to be better than the other players, they're job is to get the game right. Like me, when i do my GM work on Fiesta, I dont get on him to pwn everyone, I just do what i do. Oh & btw, if there will be GM, we will need low tempered GM's. Because players in Fiesta are Like: "Gm can i get 1 000 000 silvers, Gm can i Get Unlimited Stats, Gm can i get a +9 Wep...". And trust me, sometimes its anoying. But we still need GM, for maintenance & even to help out other players in difficulty (that's what i do in FIesta:P).
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Post  Sorlaize Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:15 am

DeepDeath wrote:GM will not be needed to be better than the other players, they're job is to get the game right. Like me, when i do my GM work on Fiesta, I dont get on him to pwn everyone, I just do what i do. Oh & btw, if there will be GM, we will need low tempered GM's. Because players in Fiesta are Like: "Gm can i get 1 000 000 silvers, Gm can i Get Unlimited Stats, Gm can i get a +9 Wep...". And trust me, sometimes its anoying. But we still need GM, for maintenance & even to help out other players in difficulty (that's what i do in FIesta:P).

Maybe you won't be able to tell GM's from other players Razz that would be fun.
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Post  Umaterasu Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:44 am

Yea that would be good, but Gm's are needed & i think there should be some if you dont Mind Sorlaize Razz.
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Post  Tsengu Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:28 pm

I think they should be hand picked by the team and BE the team, we won't need TONS of GM's so it will be ok. They should be like regular players just with a few '/commands' to keep things under control, yet the ingame GM-type system would do all the good stuff, like it could filter out the spammers and mute them so they have to wait to spam messages. Every message has a 5 second wait or something.
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Post  Umaterasu Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:09 pm

Tsengu wrote:I think they should be hand picked by the team and BE the team, we won't need TONS of GM's so it will be ok. They should be like regular players just with a few '/commands' to keep things under control, yet the ingame GM-type system would do all the good stuff, like it could filter out the spammers and mute them so they have to wait to spam messages. Every message has a 5 second wait or something.

Yea you're right, just 6-7 Gm's (max: 10) would be enough.
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Post  Shinija Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:32 pm

DeepDeath wrote:
Tsengu wrote:I think they should be hand picked by the team and BE the team, we won't need TONS of GM's so it will be ok. They should be like regular players just with a few '/commands' to keep things under control, yet the ingame GM-type system would do all the good stuff, like it could filter out the spammers and mute them so they have to wait to spam messages. Every message has a 5 second wait or something.

Yea you're right, just 6-7 Gm's (max: 10) would be enough.

No.too over crowded...i would say max is 3...3 of who we trust...
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Post  Umaterasu Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:03 pm

Shinija wrote:
DeepDeath wrote:
Tsengu wrote:I think they should be hand picked by the team and BE the team, we won't need TONS of GM's so it will be ok. They should be like regular players just with a few '/commands' to keep things under control, yet the ingame GM-type system would do all the good stuff, like it could filter out the spammers and mute them so they have to wait to spam messages. Every message has a 5 second wait or something.

Yea you're right, just 6-7 Gm's (max: 10) would be enough.

No.too over crowded...i would say max is 3...3 of who we trust...

Putting 2 or 3 Gm might not be good. The Gm's will have too much things on there backs. I know its a question of Confidence but we need more than that
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Post  Tsengu Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:26 pm

Especially since sometimes things go wrong in games and 3 GM's are not gonna be able to deal with 5000 people with problems. It would take them several days. That also begs the question, how many servers will we have? How many GM's per server? etc.
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Post  Umaterasu Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:36 pm

Tsengu wrote:Especially since sometimes things go wrong in games and 3 GM's are not gonna be able to deal with 5000 people with problems. It would take them several days. That also begs the question, how many servers will we have? How many GM's per server? etc.

Good Question! In Fiesta we have 4 Gms In Each Server, & we Have 4 Server.
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Post  Pjotrkiller Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:28 am

But the "Naruto" world will be very very big. I think we will need more than 3 GM's. But if you wanna travel from Konoha to Sand village, do you have to run/walk alot or just a warp lol I think run/walk is the best. So there will be a long long distance so there will be even more places where GM's could be needed.
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