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Post  Lord of the Cows Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:53 pm

i think that nobody has thought of the possibility of a person getting a demon, then getting bored with the game because they are better than everyone else, and quitting the game whilst still in possession of the demon. then it can't be taken from them.
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Post  Pjotrkiller Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:40 pm

How about making demons mobs that you can kill and you just get lot EXP and items o.O
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Post  Sithex Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:45 am

I came across a bunch of good info in my Reading of Leafninja
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So we need the Different ways to seal a Beijuu. I'll post the ones on Leafninja
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Post  conradxu Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:49 pm

well id rather people running with demons that those who dont have it.

i was thinking that demons would disadvantage people.

BUT i was thinking, why not use it in events.

yes.. events

where one county would have a war with another or a ninja war, and in it there will be two demons that aids one of each country, the ninjas would have to kill the demons as quickly as they can before theirs dies. and the others would have to protect it.

e.g. konoha is going to invade the sand village, (warning message: invasion about to start) then ninjas in the clan can choose to join or not. then the invasion begins, because konoha is invading the sand village, they have to destroy the shukaku (sand village demon) and the sand village would have to protect their demon for a certain amount of time (e.g. 30min). who ever wins gets extra exp and equipment while the losers only get some exp.
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Post  Rave Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:29 am

kyuubi would rape all the other demons, so thats not good :p
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Post  Umaterasu Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:07 am

Rave wrote:kyuubi would rape all the other demons, so thats not good :p

Ur kinda right
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Post  Sableye Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:42 pm

This makes no sense, obviously no one should be able to have a Demon, those who would have one will obviously be overpowered unless you make them weak, then why add it? ><

So I suggest like many others that they stay in their host and you will be able to kill them as NPC and gain some gear or something like that.

I haven't read all the post on this forum and so I have mistaken. But I guess there are other villages right? So not everybody makes a ninja from Konoha. Which make other ninja from other villages possible to attack Konoha and meet Naruto with the Kyuubi. And so attacking the Sand village, you'll be able to get to Gaara etc etc.

As for the Eight Host it'll be a problem. But since this game is far from done, I guess we'll still have time to think about it and maybe add it in a patch or whatever.

I hope I've made some sense and you get what I'm saying.

If you can only make Konoha ninja then obviously my whole post is useless Very Happy
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Post  Umaterasu Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:25 pm

Sableye wrote:This makes no sense, obviously no one should be able to have a Demon, those who would have one will obviously be overpowered unless you make them weak, then why add it? ><
Woo ho... Neutral..don't forget that you can get like 5 capped players to get that Jinchuuriki Razz...unless he capped too (then you'll need 7-8 people). We want players to feel that they are in the world of Naruto, and these facts are really important for them...
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Post  conradxu Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:41 am

well kyubi should be balanced.

and just my opinion, i dont think people should have the right to host demons, it will really imbalance the game
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Post  conradxu Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:42 am

remember, competition is good not bad
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Post  Sableye Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:18 pm

We all know how powerful a Jinchuuriken can be in Naruto series, even some badass ninja needs awesome loads of skill to only Seal it (4th). This is a game so the Jinchuuriken stays strong but players won't be able to Seal it so... it's simply not possible to balance that out.

Competition is good, yeah indeed but it's a 1-way fairness. It's like having a lvl 20 trying to kill a lvl 34, simply not possible.

Let's say everybody has the same amount of skill (real life reaction, how you use your skill properly) those with a Jinchuuriken will own everybody because their stats/jutsu/whatever is beter/stonger.

It's like having Game Masters in the gaming playing with you, for those who play games with GMs.

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Post  Sithex Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:36 pm

Ok this will only make it fair. In order to gain a bijuu you must be S-ranked with sealing jutsu. The cost of being a Jinchuuriki is that the bijuu must be transfered into a new character and the character you used to seal the bijuu dies. the cost of becomeing a Jinchuuriki will cost your s-rank. But Heirlooms can be handed down to the new character to help get back on your feet faster with your new stamina and Chakra. An Eye for an Eye sorta deal it cant be easy to become a Jinchuuriki or everyone will go for it unless there are drawbacks. Inorder to keep balence and prevention of utter chaos we need people to go well is my character worth being a Jinchuuriki and starting over..... Cool
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Post  conradxu Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:28 am

i see a huge problem with that, people who are rich (e.g. people from the uae, oil place) will spend heaps of money and spend soo much time in this game, that they will keep handing down a heir loom and such and bijuus, then that new character will be imba (imbalanced, too strong) even if its just one weapon thats handed down, they will keep strengthening it
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Post  Sithex Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:12 pm

Lets figure the Pros and Cons of being a Jinchuuriki

Cons
- Always Hunted
- Loosing a S-Ranked Ninja that seals the Bijuu, you worked Relentlessly on
- Taming the Tailed Demon while its sealed up inside of you
- starting over
- Chance that the Tailed Demon will overpower your body and release itself from the seal, then becoming a new freed Bijuu to destroy what it wants (you'd likely die in this situation)
- Using it could cause you to loose life faster (Depending)
- Your character can legitimatly die when the Bijuu is extracted

Pros
- Chakra and Stamina
- Special Abilities unique to the Bijuu
- Faster Heal Rate while taping into the Bijuu (circumstances)
- A Heirloom
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Post  Umaterasu Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:20 pm

Sithex wrote:Lets figure the Pros and Cons of being a Jinchuuriki

Cons
- Always Hunted
- Loosing a S-Ranked Ninja that seals the Bijuu, you worked Relentlessly on
- Taming the Tailed Demon while its sealed up inside of you
- starting over
- Chance that the Tailed Demon will overpower your body and release itself from the seal, then becoming a new freed Bijuu to destroy what it wants (you'd likely die in this situation)
- Using it could cause you to loose life faster (Depending)
- Your character can legitimatly die when the Bijuu is extracted8)

I think you shouldn't restart a new char. although it refers to the anime...because if you get a bijuu at level 80...and you want it...but you have to start all over at level 1...that would be...lame T_T
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Post  conradxu Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:11 am

that would be really lame, but thats the price you pay, though i dont think solarize would implement it, but then again he could if he wanted to. but the problem with that, is mass gamers or rich people will keep buying exp from the shopping mall and all they would have it.
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Post  Umaterasu Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:32 am

conradxu wrote:that would be really lame, but thats the price you pay, though i dont think solarize would implement it, but then again he could if he wanted to. but the problem with that, is mass gamers or rich people will keep buying exp from the shopping mall and all they would have it.

You can't buy experience in the Shopping Mall, it is only for items. And then, like you said it would be really lame since like almost all suggested...the cap should be hard to get to...and if you're level 80 you find one...and you need 6 months to cap...that would be totally unfair and kinda bad
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Post  conradxu Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:11 am

so is this gonna be implemened? as in put demons into the game.

i rkn we should just leave them as bosses and cut the bit where we get possessed by them.
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Post  Sithex Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:30 am

Umaterasu wrote:
I think you shouldn't restart a new char. although it refers to the anime...because if you get a bijuu at level 80...and you want it...but you have to start all over at level 1...that would be...lame T_T

Your not suppose to like it you see if it were easy to gain at no cost everyone will be wanting it. and you'd only be a Jinkuuriki for a day at the most before you get A** rap*d (Canadian Censorship) by Missing Nin who want it for their means.

conradxu wrote:
so is this gonna be implemened? as in put demons into the game.

i rkn we should just leave them as bosses and cut the bit where we get possessed by them.


Wild Bijuu will be abouts lest we forget. Where if your strong enough you could beat (Not Easily) them and if you have the proper sealing Jutsu. You can seal it into a new character at the cost of your own. It's the same deal because like ive said before Jinkuuriki means "Power of Human Sacrifice" something has to be "Sacrificed" in order to gain this increadible Chakra, Stamina, Jutsu, etc the Bijuu gives you.
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Post  SeanAsberry Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:12 pm

Sithex wrote:
Umaterasu wrote:
I think you shouldn't restart a new char. although it refers to the anime...because if you get a bijuu at level 80...and you want it...but you have to start all over at level 1...that would be...lame T_T

Your not suppose to like it you see if it were easy to gain at no cost everyone will be wanting it. and you'd only be a Jinkuuriki for a day at the most before you get A** rap*d (Canadian Censorship) by Missing Nin who want it for their means.

conradxu wrote:
so is this gonna be implemened? as in put demons into the game.

i rkn we should just leave them as bosses and cut the bit where we get possessed by them.


Wild Bijuu will be abouts lest we forget. Where if your strong enough you could beat (Not Easily) them and if you have the proper sealing Jutsu. You can seal it into a new character at the cost of your own. It's the same deal because like ive said before Jinkuuriki means "Power of Human Sacrifice" something has to be "Sacrificed" in order to gain this increadible Chakra, Stamina, Jutsu, etc the Bijuu gives you.
so you lose a character? and give the bijuu to a new character? is that what you mean?
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Post  denvergo Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:01 pm

i really like that idea.

and i really dont understand whats the problem, every one said that they prefer that they were only NPC, because they dont want to unbalance the game, and they dont want them to be weak, and now that someone suggest a good idea to make them powerfull and still be balanced, you people start saying that is too difficult or unfair.

i support this idea. Very Happy
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Post  Rev54 Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:19 pm

Demon,

So heres the first thought sort of bad still working on but read the other cause its a real good idea.

bad idea maybe- working on it

so say we come up with 9 main villages, and within these 9 villages is one of the Bijuu. and when
you are going through your character creation and you pick your village you can pick to have a demon
spirit inside of you instead of having a clan Kekkei Genkai bloodline. Depending on the village you pick
determines what Bijuu you can have. Yes this means that mulitple people can have a Bijuu but we have
a thread where everyne would want to be uchiha, but as long as you make strenghts and weakness for every
clan and even for the demons, the the battle ground will always be a fair fight. I have below under good
idea, what I think we should do with having a demon and its strenghts and weaknesses. but you also have
consider that people will want to play the game to live out there fantasy and if they want a
demon from the start then they should be able to, you want to also think about getting alot of people to
play this game, and not letting them have what they want would be a big turn off.

so my good idea,

Demon Rage mode - working title

when you summon the demons power you get 40% more hp and chakra from your total chakra, not
what you have left. example

10,000 hp total your down to 1,000 you gain 4,000 after you summon and gives you 5,000 total,
now you have a small time limit to defeat your oppenent or, after time limit you will lose
90% of your total hp from when you summoned the demons powers, so if you only have 1,000 hp
on summon, and you lose 4,250 after you fight your left with 750 hp but you would lose 90% of
the 1,000 so you would have to lose 900 hp which means you would faint/die. its a double
edge sword. Now, your stats would increase what, maybe 40% also, you would have icreased damge,
so your basic moves do more damage, and you take less damage. this would also make it worth while
because with my % stragey, you could see that unleashing the demons power at the begging of a fight,
would be a bad idea. example if you have 10,000 hp and you use the demon right away you would have
14,000 total hp but if you dont defeat your oppenent in time, then your total hp would be cut 90%
leaving you with only 1,000 hp, and near the beginning of a fight that gives you a big disadvantage.

and how about another idea, while your
in demon rage mode you get extra ninjutsu that comes from the demon that only he has and no one
else can learn. so your a low level and after you have summon demon rage mode you would have to wait
like two hours until you could use it again do its extreme stress on the body. Now when you train
you can choose to upgrade it by increasing the duration of demon rage mode, and by decreasing its cool
down rate.

Now if we do it that you have control over the demon and you can't let it be unleashed and reign terror
over everyone, you allow the player with the demon to start to use the demons ninjutsu without going
inot demon rage mode. So what im saying is that after you reach maybe jounin level or higher, you can
start to use the demons power without summoning it, but of course, this would have a price. the nijutsu
would be powerful, but cost hefty chakra and you would lose hp do to its strain on the body.

This idea would work because it has strenghts and weaknesses like the other clans so it doesn't make it
to powerful. Your strengh is great power but at a cost of losing hp, and when your not in Demon rage mode
your only using basic jutsu, and techninques that are powerful but everyone else has them too
and you wouldnt have any extra specail abilites like being in a clan and having a Kekkei Genkai.

Long read sorry, but its an idea that I have thought out threw my head that would work.


what do you think, if you need any clarification on what I said let me know. Or if you thik of a reason
why this wouldn't work let me know. From what I can think of its almost bullet proof!

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Post  Umaterasu Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:57 am

Rev54 wrote:Demon,

So heres the first thought sort of bad still working on but read the other cause its a real good idea.

bad idea maybe- working on it

so say we come up with 9 main villages, and within these 9 villages is one of the Bijuu. and when
you are going through your character creation and you pick your village you can pick to have a demon
spirit inside of you instead of having a clan Kekkei Genkai bloodline. Depending on the village you pick
determines what Bijuu you can have. Yes this means that mulitple people can have a Bijuu but we have
a thread where everyne would want to be uchiha, but as long as you make strenghts and weakness for every
clan and even for the demons, the the battle ground will always be a fair fight. I have below under good
idea, what I think we should do with having a demon and its strenghts and weaknesses. but you also have
consider that people will want to play the game to live out there fantasy and if they want a
demon from the start then they should be able to, you want to also think about getting alot of people to
play this game, and not letting them have what they want would be a big turn off.

so my good idea,

Demon Rage mode - working title

when you summon the demons power you get 40% more hp and chakra from your total chakra, not
what you have left. example

10,000 hp total your down to 1,000 you gain 4,000 after you summon and gives you 5,000 total,
now you have a small time limit to defeat your oppenent or, after time limit you will lose
90% of your total hp from when you summoned the demons powers, so if you only have 1,000 hp
on summon, and you lose 4,250 after you fight your left with 750 hp but you would lose 90% of
the 1,000 so you would have to lose 900 hp which means you would faint/die. its a double
edge sword. Now, your stats would increase what, maybe 40% also, you would have icreased damge,
so your basic moves do more damage, and you take less damage. this would also make it worth while
because with my % stragey, you could see that unleashing the demons power at the begging of a fight,
would be a bad idea. example if you have 10,000 hp and you use the demon right away you would have
14,000 total hp but if you dont defeat your oppenent in time, then your total hp would be cut 90%
leaving you with only 1,000 hp, and near the beginning of a fight that gives you a big disadvantage.

and how about another idea, while your
in demon rage mode you get extra ninjutsu that comes from the demon that only he has and no one
else can learn. so your a low level and after you have summon demon rage mode you would have to wait
like two hours until you could use it again do its extreme stress on the body. Now when you train
you can choose to upgrade it by increasing the duration of demon rage mode, and by decreasing its cool
down rate.

Now if we do it that you have control over the demon and you can't let it be unleashed and reign terror
over everyone, you allow the player with the demon to start to use the demons ninjutsu without going
inot demon rage mode. So what im saying is that after you reach maybe jounin level or higher, you can
start to use the demons power without summoning it, but of course, this would have a price. the nijutsu
would be powerful, but cost hefty chakra and you would lose hp do to its strain on the body.

This idea would work because it has strenghts and weaknesses like the other clans so it doesn't make it
to powerful. Your strengh is great power but at a cost of losing hp, and when your not in Demon rage mode
your only using basic jutsu, and techninques that are powerful but everyone else has them too
and you wouldnt have any extra specail abilites like being in a clan and having a Kekkei Genkai.

Long read sorry, but its an idea that I have thought out threw my head that would work.


what do you think, if you need any clarification on what I said let me know. Or if you thik of a reason
why this wouldn't work let me know. From what I can think of its almost bullet proof!

I don't think everyone should have a bijuu as stated in your text. And giving them a choice of choosing of becoming a Uchiha or having Bijuu is...akward Razz.
I think we should stick with the Bijuus being wild mobs in Open Beta, and when you/or your team gets to defeat it, then there will be a drop with the Bijuu's face and when you click it, you get it ^^. And about the sealing thing, maybe we should put a npc that seals your bijuu for an amount of money (example: 1,000,000 ryo), or something that has the value of 1,000,000 ryo...
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Post  Rev54 Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:04 pm

Umaterasu wrote:

I don't think everyone should have a bijuu as stated in your text. And giving them a choice of choosing of becoming a Uchiha or having Bijuu is...akward Razz.
I think we should stick with the Bijuus being wild mobs in Open Beta, and when you/or your team gets to defeat it, then there will be a drop with the Bijuu's face and when you click it, you get it ^^. And about the sealing thing, maybe we should put a npc that seals your bijuu for an amount of money (example: 1,000,000 ryo), or something that has the value of 1,000,000 ryo...

yeah, but now you can have a lvl 80 guy with maxed out stats, and just recieved a Bijuu, now what if that player decides to quit playing, we will lose the bijuu forever. I think someone that has to be Uchiha or Bijuu is just a fair way to keep the game balanced.

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Post  Umaterasu Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:11 pm

Rev54 wrote:
Umaterasu wrote:

I don't think everyone should have a bijuu as stated in your text. And giving them a choice of choosing of becoming a Uchiha or having Bijuu is...akward Razz.
I think we should stick with the Bijuus being wild mobs in Open Beta, and when you/or your team gets to defeat it, then there will be a drop with the Bijuu's face and when you click it, you get it ^^. And about the sealing thing, maybe we should put a npc that seals your bijuu for an amount of money (example: 1,000,000 ryo), or something that has the value of 1,000,000 ryo...

yeah, but now you can have a lvl 80 guy with maxed out stats, and just recieved a Bijuu, now what if that player decides to quit playing, we will lose the bijuu forever. I think someone that has to be Uchiha or Bijuu is just a fair way to keep the game balanced.

As stated in an other topic, we will have Staff members taking care of inactive accounts, so if someone doesn't play anymore, we will send him a warning, and if he still doesn't get on his account then it'll probably deleted or something.
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