Re: Pricing.

[SharinganMaster]

lol runescape

[Umaterasu]

I dont like the Idea of paying at all :/ Alot underaged people may not pay for it from their parents. But with a Cash Shop with real life money it will also suck. Because then who pays the most money will be the best in game :/

But we need money so maby it has to be paying o.O

Lol players that pays for Cash Shop Items wont be the best in the game, in the cash shop you wont buy "be lvl 80 with only 20$"...its costumes, pets, mounts...things like that

[Sw0rdm3n]

I dont like the Idea of paying at all :/ Alot underaged people may not pay for it from their parents. But with a Cash Shop with real life money it will also suck. Because then who pays the most money will be the best in game :/

But we need money so maby it has to be paying o.O

Lol players that pays for Cash Shop Items wont be the best in the game, in the cash shop you wont buy "be lvl 80 with only 20$"...its costumes, pets, mounts...things like that

Yea, Umaterasu is correct.

You wont buy levels off there. You will buy items like weapons, clothes, mounts, maybe exp boosters, maybe even some jutsu.

These things will give an ADVATAGE to paying customers, but you will also be able to purchase them for game money from players that bought them from cash shop. But u see those people will keep the game alive for everyone, so of course its reasonable that they get a some advatage...

But now this is a perfect solution, because we will get money to host the servers. And players that do not have money to pay for the game will be able to play.

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[Umaterasu]

totally correct

[PicMan]

look i dont wanna be "THAT GUY" but that whole pay 2$ a month might not work. i mean making people pay for games sumtimes ruins the game. like wat happened to warrrock. they were doin fine until they made u pay for it. then they DROPED in players.thats y u dont realy want to make them pay. instead just do it like this.
say u want to buy the "NEW SUPER COOL FIRE SHUIKEN" from the shop then it would cost $5.
games do alot better wen there free but u can buy stuff. cuz if u force them to buy then they will quit.
TRUST ME i know

[runeblade]

Alright the thing is, we need funds to run an successful online game. When i played everquest for 7years straight i payed $10 a month and then $15 a month when it increased later.

Now that i said that, we absolutely cannot have donation rewards if we want a completely balanced game. Ive been playing a private server where these handful of people have donated $100's to $1000's themselves in the past 2months and right away you had people with the best stuff in the game pwning everyone else. It was a war of donations, not a war of skill and time.

Its not that these people shouldn't of got those items for that much money. It just really unbalances the game and makes it unfair. Could their be a medium where donating gives you alittle extra leverage but gives any other person a chance to be just as good as the donater with work? Possibly, but I still dont like it.

Every successful game has an amount of money thats payed equally, if none or all. If its only 2$ a month i say thats pretty fair. Thats under half of the runescape subscription for members.

Now are biggest target audience is going to be people ranging from 10yr-14yr on up to 18 and 20. Since their all students, a $10-15 like i used to pay back in school is probably to high. A fee of $2-$5 sounds pretty fair. You could make a deal with your parents if your young to clean up around the house (chores) in return they pay a $2-$5.

Along with that their could be ads at the startup of the game that target a younger audience to entice them to certain products that could cover the rest of any income thats needed. No ads when leaving the game though. I feel thats really inconvenient, and parents that are making their kid get off cause they played to much will have to wait longer and possibly remove the player from the game.

[PicMan]

sry i cant believe i forgot this xD
if you do make them pay for the game 2 play make sure its a good game.
Dont make them pay 10$ a month for a crappy game thats not fun
So i say just let them buy items from a shop so they dont HAVE to pay for a crappy game (not that it is >.>)

[Lord of the Cows]

the solution i see is Google ads. Google pays you for how mahy people click the adds, which is why freewebs and stuff like that are able to pay for so many domains. It's easy to get google ads and once you get it, you start receiving the money (especially if you spend all day clicking your own ads...). People won't have to pay, and money will be there to pay for the domain.

[runeblade]

I guess we'll see what can be brought in with ads for server upkeep and all that. If its to low then a small fee should cover it.

[Sithex]

I was talking to my friend recently about this subject an i found his idea quite interesting he states that we should put up advertisements to make money up on billboards around the villages. I figure it should be added to the pile of ideas

[shikamaru_nara]

God $2 per month?!?! i think the game should be for free...and the money can depend on the cash shop...You wouldn't get alot of people if you pay.

Shinija do you not have that kind of money?

It's half of what TV ads ask you to donate to charity. So it's probable that someone else could pay for you out of kindness. Maybe you can ask for a more spread-out Birthday present?

Or maybe we could go with the other idea. But that would mean Shinija now can't get the special items that cost real money. Personally I don't think that's very fair; think about it considering all the Naruto fans out there. Would they want it like most other games, or would they want everything fair for a minimal payment? Are they comfortable with paying for things?

Of course if we take my idea we could experiment with giving long trial periods or making it optional to pay, but then there's the risk of not having enough money to cover servers/software.

ok i think that 2$ per month is a good price but do you think that would be enough to pay for your all stuff about the game i mean cmon runescape if free/p2p and i'd have to pay 10$ if i wanted to pay through mail!

the next thing about is what about other ways of paying because i could pay but what if some kid's mother doesn't believe the net you got to admit that there is a lot of hackers in the world ofc you could make like a phone payment or pay by cell or pre payed cards or so!!!

[Umaterasu]

God $2 per month?!?! i think the game should be for free...and the money can depend on the cash shop...You wouldn't get alot of people if you pay.

Shinija do you not have that kind of money?

It's half of what TV ads ask you to donate to charity. So it's probable that someone else could pay for you out of kindness. Maybe you can ask for a more spread-out Birthday present?

Or maybe we could go with the other idea. But that would mean Shinija now can't get the special items that cost real money. Personally I don't think that's very fair; think about it considering all the Naruto fans out there. Would they want it like most other games, or would they want everything fair for a minimal payment? Are they comfortable with paying for things?

Of course if we take my idea we could experiment with giving long trial periods or making it optional to pay, but then there's the risk of not having enough money to cover servers/software.

ok i think that 2$ per month is a good price but do you think that would be enough to pay for your all stuff about the game i mean cmon runescape if free/p2p and i'd have to pay 10$ if i wanted to pay through mail!

the next thing about is what about other ways of paying because i could pay but what if some kid's mother doesn't believe the net you got to admit that there is a lot of hackers in the world ofc you could make like a phone payment or pay by cell or pre payed cards or so!!!

These could be used, however, for phone payment, that means we will have to have a 24/7 customer service which I think we will not be able to get.
Pre-paid Card are expensive, and I think we should stick with online payment until we become a larger gaming compagny
pay by cell could work.

[shikamaru_nara]

I dont like the Idea of paying at all :/ Alot underaged people may not pay for it from their parents. But with a Cash Shop with real life money it will also suck. Because then who pays the most money will be the best in game :/

But we need money so maby it has to be paying o.O

Lol players that pays for Cash Shop Items wont be the best in the game, in the cash shop you wont buy "be lvl 80 with only 20$"...its costumes, pets, mounts...things like that

Yea, Umaterasu is correct.

You wont buy levels off there. You will buy items like weapons, clothes, mounts, maybe exp boosters, maybe even some jutsu.

These things will give an ADVATAGE to paying customers, but you will also be able to purchase them for game money from players that bought them from cash shop. But u see those people will keep the game alive for everyone, so of course its reasonable that they get a some advatage...

But now this is a perfect solution, because we will get money to host the servers. And players that do not have money to pay for the game will be able to play.

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(sorry for double posting but this forum is going to be closed soon!)
again you missed the point Pjotrkiller was right because if i am level 80 uchiha and you are a lv 80 uchiha with a few jutsu's from the store and maybe a sword it will be easier for you because you would do more dmg unless the stats do not change with the weapons and clothes(kick jutsu's out of the shop and put items for quests so you have the easier 1$ way or harder but a free way to pass the quest but this could also make some of the players that cannot pay stop playing)

BEST THING IS THE GOOGLE AD THING make 10 guys or so to put their ads on a page and then make them all click each others commercials if it takes them to find the commercial and click on it like 12 seconds that means 50 cents a minute 1 hour makes that 30$!!!!
if you do it for an hour a day at the end of the week that will get to 210$ you could also cut that so make it 20 people and 30 mins a day and you get the same amount imagine if there were more people and there will also be some guys that do not work for the SOS that will click it(and for every1 that you invite to join the google add and if they join by your inv. card you get another 3cents)

do your own maths from now on im 14 yo!!!

[yamashi1]

Won't work this way we want to make money out of the game to make other games and not having another job.

[Vlade12]

Hey guys you should look at joymax.They started with the  Darkeden real horror game, and put the opiton too buy coin for real money and they made alot of money from that game so they made 2 new games,lol.One of them is Silkroad a FREE fantasy MMORPG game,which I play,very popular(also has an item shop)there are 25 servers in that game and I cant get into any of them becouse they are OVERCROWDED(only in the morning at about 8am and at midnight.What im trying  to say is that the Item shop really worked out for them and they made lots of money(also goes for cabal online) so if you think its a good idea why not try it out??And pls dont put any monthly payments it isnt very popular and some1 would probably start a private server of your game like they did on lots of other mmorpg games and they would probably put donations to have the best items and evry1 would play on free private servers so its a bad idea.Pls reply if you think about what I said and good luck creating the game.

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