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Post  Raiden Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:15 am

Hmm, Hi am Raiden am new to this forum, im thinking of this idea that, to use handseals you have to press some kind of letter or button 0_0. Like for example, to open the handseal menu press H or J, and start picking combinations for jutsus as you gain them. Other way can also be by pressing a button in keyboard for example, Dog = D or something. I hope this brang some ideas Very Happy
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Post  Pjotrkiller Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:59 am

It would take to long to do a justu and in that time you will already be dead .Like if you are gonna do chidori (need handsigns) and the enemy uses rasengan (no handsigns) rasengan hit much faster and you will be dead lol.
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Post  Sorlaize Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:05 am

Pjotrkiller wrote:It would take to long to do a justu and in that time you will already be dead .Like if you are gonna do chidori (need handsigns) and the enemy uses rasengan (no handsigns) rasengan hit much faster and you will be dead lol.

Not necessarily. We could implement the hand seals to be performed as fast as the keys are pressed, with the seal completing after each key press. Your level (not just level) might influence how fast you're able to pull this off.

Raiden, please make an effort to at least read the section you're posting in before making a new topic about what's already been mentioned. Razz

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Shadow_pryo wrote:oh that brings up a question... how are they ganna do jutsu? u just press a button and he does it? thats kinda ehh...maybe we should make it where you gota do the hand sings? make it more real, like the A button is rat B is Bore, C is Dog, and then you do ABC and u do bunshin? i'm sure thats not the right comobo but yea, and then they can mix hand sings and see if they unlock a new jutsu? just an idea that i remeber seenin on a game i played on Byond ^^;

I thought of maybe using the numpad for that, e.g. one seal for each key. So you remember where the hand seals are and you can do any jutsu by being told what order, in-game, without having to look elsewhere.

The downside with that, though, is you can't easily reach other keys or the mouse from there. You'd have to stop using the mouse to perform the seals. Also, if we're going to make one-handed seals possible (for some rare bloodlines like Haku's) then it makes sense they should be easier
to perform on the keyboard. I don't think Jutsu shortcuts or slots should be used, unless the player really does not want to perform a
jutsu that gets used all the time, in which case it should be ~10% less effective [allowing this should also discourage macro hacking].

The method of manually putting in the key presses each time makes it difficult and you need skill to do this fast. It will handsomely reward the dedicated Naruto fan (also knowing the hand seals off by heart helps). We could use optional variations for the seals where people argue over which one is correct.
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Post  Raiden Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:08 am

lol Didn't noticed affraid
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Post  Pjotrkiller Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:16 am

Sorlaize wrote:
Pjotrkiller wrote:It would take to long to do a justu and in that time you will already be dead .Like if you are gonna do chidori (need handsigns) and the enemy uses rasengan (no handsigns) rasengan hit much faster and you will be dead lol.

Not necessarily. We could implement the hand seals to be performed as fast as the keys are pressed, with the seal completing after each key press. Your level (not just level) might influence how fast you're able to pull this off.

Raiden, please make an effort to at least read the section you're posting in before making a new topic about what's already been mentioned. Razz

Sorlaize wrote:
Shadow_pryo wrote:oh that brings up a question... how are they ganna do jutsu? u just press a button and he does it? thats kinda ehh...maybe we should make it where you gota do the hand sings? make it more real, like the A button is rat B is Bore, C is Dog, and then you do ABC and u do bunshin? i'm sure thats not the right comobo but yea, and then they can mix hand sings and see if they unlock a new jutsu? just an idea that i remeber seenin on a game i played on Byond ^^;

I thought of maybe using the numpad for that, e.g. one seal for each key. So you remember where the hand seals are and you can do any jutsu by being told what order, in-game, without having to look elsewhere.

The downside with that, though, is you can't easily reach other keys or the mouse from there. You'd have to stop using the mouse to perform the seals. Also, if we're going to make one-handed seals possible (for some rare bloodlines like Haku's) then it makes sense they should be easier
to perform on the keyboard. I don't think Jutsu shortcuts or slots should be used, unless the player really does not want to perform a
jutsu that gets used all the time, in which case it should be ~10% less effective [allowing this should also discourage macro hacking].

The method of manually putting in the key presses each time makes it difficult and you need skill to do this fast. It will handsomely reward the dedicated Naruto fan (also knowing the hand seals off by heart helps). We could use optional variations for the seals where people argue over which one is correct.

Hm, I see but it's lrady on another post isn't it?
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Post  Tsengu Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:58 pm

I don't think that is really his fault Sorlaize. I don't expect everyone to read EVERYTHING on the forum myself. We could do hand seals, we just REALLY need to place the keys close to eachother and placed nicely so it compliments with everyother hotkey command.
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Post  Sorlaize Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:45 pm

Tsengu wrote:I don't think that is really his fault Sorlaize. I don't expect everyone to read EVERYTHING on the forum myself. We could do hand seals, we just REALLY need to place the keys close to eachother and placed nicely so it compliments with everyother hotkey command.

Tsengu are you offering to organize this section better? Razz

Also, yes, I agree with that. An issue right now is what keys to use.
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Post  Takashi Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:47 pm

I say teh numbpad keys...

They are all close together. You can assigned whatever hand seal to whatever numpad key you want. So it would be easier to memorize them. And theres enough numpad keys for most of the handsigns!

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Post  Tsengu Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:46 pm

We thought of this, which was one of the reasons we didn't know if we were gonna be implementing handseals to do jutsu or not. See, the numpad would be good, but it doesn't compliment anything else, you have to actually move your other hand off the mouse to press these. So you could easily be killed, and it slows down the fighting and strategy. I would like to hear some more suggestions regarding seal-key placements. So if you have an idea post it and we'll see how it could work.
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Post  mdude186 Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:57 pm

How about have to do the arrow keys and the number pad at the same time? Like up and 1 is a hand sign and down and 3 is another. Is that good or you want somthing else?

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Post  Tsengu Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:10 pm

Well see the same problem is there, your hand comes off the mouse, we will be using the "WASD" method for movement so it has to really compliment with them for the most part.
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Post  mdude186 Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:14 pm

How about if when you hit one of the number pad keys you have to click the mouse at the same time?

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Post  Takashi Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:17 pm

Or how about NOOOO hand signs?

It adds to much complication. I hated BYOND games with Hand Signs that you had to press. It got annoying and it p***ed me off tbh..

Sooo!!

Once you get the proper level and proper skills and stuff. You learn the jutsu.

It should be chakra control.. NOT HAND SIGNS.... That determines whether the Jutsu is correctly executed or not.

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Post  mdude186 Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:24 pm

But then it requires no skill. Just push a button. With the hand signs you will have to manage your time to execute it and also concentrate on your chakra control as well. This is what will make the game unique.

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Post  Takashi Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:25 pm

We have a new idea. I will post up later.

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Post  Tsengu Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:08 pm

mdude186 wrote:How about if when you hit one of the number pad keys you have to click the mouse at the same time?

Well that still leaves you with the problem of not being able to move, and ninja can move and do jutsu at the same time. It really has to compliment the "WASD" method, meaning you have to be able to access it not far from the W, A, S and D keys for fast reactions.
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Post  mdude186 Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:58 pm

Okay lol i'm running out of ideas here. How about if you have a handsign like picture bar somewhere on the screen. And you click the hand sign for it to be executed?

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Post  Takashi Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:52 pm

The hand sign question is OVER!

Me and Sorlaize figured out how to do it earlier today geez.

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Post  mdude186 Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:55 pm

Sorry i didn't know. Crying or Very sad

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Post  Pjotrkiller Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:04 am

Takashi wrote:The hand sign question is OVER!

Me and Sorlaize figured out how to do it earlier today geez.

What did you figure out?
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Post  Sorlaize Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:42 am

mdude186 wrote:Okay lol i'm running out of ideas here. How about if you have a handsign like picture bar somewhere on the screen. And you click the hand sign for it to be executed?

That's a nice idea. I did think of each seal having a different colour also. (like a coloured outline outside the seal logo)

Takashi our msn conversation doesn't make it final. This is what the forums are for. Smile
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Post  Tsengu Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:03 am

Also we are a team, so that also brings up the point that we must all (or majority at least) agree on practically everything.
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Post  Pjotrkiller Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:17 am

Yea, If we wanna discus something let's have a group conversation on msn xD
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Post  Tsengu Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:26 am

I've been waiting for that. We really need to finalize and figure out just what we are gonna be doing. But.. back on topic please.
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Post  Pjotrkiller Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:52 am

Sorry o.O
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