Re: Handseals Idea

[conradxu]

well, i just dont want hotkeys to be F1 or F2, i want them on the numberpad, because. e.g. in cold days, you hand usually freezes while it is sitting on top of th F1 keys, while the hand on the right is constantly moving, and it easier to just let go of the mouse and then press a number on numberpad, then put your hand back onto the mouse.

[Umaterasu]

well, i just dont want hotkeys to be F1 or F2, i want them on the numberpad, because. e.g. in cold days, you hand usually freezes while it is sitting on top of th F1 keys, while the hand on the right is constantly moving, and it easier to just let go of the mouse and then press a number on numberpad, then put your hand back onto the mouse.

definitely.

[Ryath]

But you also have to factor in people who's main computer is a laptop, like me. The majority of laptops don't have a real number pad off to the side, so you would have to account for players on laptops.

[Sw0rdm3n]

But you also have to factor in people who's main computer is a laptop, like me. The majority of laptops don't have a real number pad off to the side, so you would have to account for players on laptops.

Yea, i was going to say that.

[kaostheory]

Good ideas but it is sorta like monotonus every one is saying the same thng which sometimes isn't a bad thing by the the way. But I think we kinda have a conclusion but I just wanted to hate on thebnumbers idea cuz I don't want to memorize a bunch of ten digit numbers for one game. So we could do jutsu abreviations instead so that way there is no memorizing. About the taijutsu ya taijutsu does use up chacra but those are like combos and stuff a basic kick would be like minus .01% tho or less but like 2punches would be higher. Or in WOW how u get interface on ur screen where u drag moves out of the skills book into the screen ya we could have that except ours is that u get only 20 slots and those are the only moves u can use in battle only twenty but u can like go to skills book and switch moves. Cuz u probably need less than 20 moves LOL. And this is where the numbers come in u use 1-0 on numpad or wat ever and that is 10 jutsu and then 10-19 and that is another 10 and that is 20 jutsu, of course each time u do a jutsu on the screen it shows the characters executing the hand signs.

[conradxu]

i guess chaos is right, leave the skills simple, but make it that the actuall skill is targeting the target and sucessfully hitting them, we could had weak points on the body e.g. head has no armour and takes the actual damage that is applied, while the arms and legs have about 20-50% damage reduction etc.

[Umaterasu]

Most likely, I propose we do like kaostheory said, leave it simple...

[PicMan]

can we please just use numbers cuz i like SKILL GAMES
were it actualy takes skill to win a fight not just ur lvl
so usen numbers would take alot more skill then
just pressen the buttons on the screen

[Umaterasu]

can we please just use numbers cuz i like SKILL GAMES
were it actualy takes skill to win a fight not just ur lvl
so usen numbers would take alot more skill then
just pressen the buttons on the screen

well the game will still be based on levels...don't expect a level 1 to kill a level 80 ^^.

[conradxu]

lvl 1s cant kill lvl 80s, but skill will be a big factor in the game. if used properly lvl 1 can kill lvl 5 but if the lvl 5 can use it properly as well then obviously the lvl 5 will triumpt over lvl 1.

[kaostheory]

I have a better idea we could do both my idea and the number combo. Just they would be in the interface options and u can switch between preference.

[SeanAsberry]

handseals are a good idea becasue with out it this isnt a naruto game but it would suck to forgett one jutsu and ttrying to remeber then BAM your dead but that is what needs to be done

[Rev54]

for get them? well obviously you would have a Character Stats area, where you can look at your stats, and you jutsu and your money, and your items, and your quests. So in something like that we would have the ability to click on the ninjutsu we learned to see what it does, and what its combination is.

(and dont forget, you can always right it down on a peice of paper and post it next to your monitor-this isn't cheating its playing smart)

[conradxu]

you wont forget them if u continuously use the jutsu, but there is room for error. i dont want people just spamming hte keys. i want actual skill involved in the game.

[Tsengu]

This topic is still alive? Damn... anywho. People spamming techniques would have to get the right keys inputed. If you don't, I'll be like Sasuke.. and you can be like Naruto... and I'll call you an idiot...

[Rev54]

I like the idea, because it gives the game more of a challenge. And you wouldnt be able to push the right buttons to use a technique that you havent learned.

[Umaterasu]

This topic is still alive? Damn... anywho. People spamming techniques would have to get the right keys inputed. If you don't, I'll be like Sasuke.. and you can be like Naruto... and I'll call you an idiot...

The problem with imputing keys to do a jutsu (e.g: 1+3+5+9= Katon Gyoukakyou No Jutsu) is that we won't get alot of opportunities of doing alot of jutsus (e.g: 200 Jutsus).
If we stick with the basic settings...pressing:1 to do a jutsu, it will be simpler (I know you guys want this game to be about "skills", but we can't do lotsa jutsus with only '1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0')

[Rev54]

This topic is still alive? Damn... anywho. People spamming techniques would have to get the right keys inputed. If you don't, I'll be like Sasuke.. and you can be like Naruto... and I'll call you an idiot...

The problem with imputing keys to do a jutsu (e.g: 1+3+5+9= Katon Gyoukakyou No Jutsu) is that we won't get alot of opportunities of doing alot of jutsus (e.g: 200 Jutsus).
If we stick with the basic settings...pressing:1 to do a jutsu, it will be simpler (I know you guys want this game to be about "skills", but we can't do lotsa jutsus with only '1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0')

if we used 0-9 and used only 4 digit comibinations, thats 10,000 combinations. I don't think we could ever come up with that many. and if we do this, simple ninjustu would be 4 button combinations, as where killer techniques that do more damage are 8 button techniques. I mean thats a ton of opportunites to learn a bunch of jutsu plus, if we do it this way, we arent taking up as many keys, if we just use 0-9 as one key one move, then you have limited yourself to only 9 moves, and then if you start to add extra letters into there then your skills would be all over your key board, still limiting you to a certain amount of moves.

This system is for learning being able to learn millions of justu, and yeah some will be memory, thats how the Naruto Verse is. Remembering handseals in order to perform your jutsu.


Also, if we wanted, we could break it down more. I have researched that there are only 12 basic handseals

so if we went with a combination like

sign button
1 - 1,2 - Ne
2 - 4,5 - ushi
3 - 7,8 - Torra
4 - 8,9 - etc..
5 - 5,6
6 - 2,3
7 - 1,4
8 - 2,5
9 - 3,6
10 - 4,7
11 - 5,8
12 - 6,9

Spoiler:

This way you would only have to remember a set of 12 digits. and say the combination is something like Ne Ushi Toora, then you need to type in those six digits, this way you can train yourself to remeber what 12 combinations are then eventually you wont need the numbers just the Name (Ne, Ushi, Tora).

Another way I have thought using this same theory, is having 12 buttons be the different signs, this would make it faster.

if you have key pad then you could use

/ * -
789
456
123
(12 buttons)

or the number bar
` 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - = (12 buttons) (if ` is not allowed to be used you cuold use Backspce or [ )

I know im a broken record with my method, I just think that doing this would be more fun the clicking an icon or just one button and having the jutsu automatically work.

EDIT - To add a question, Im hoping that you will have to learn new jutsu by talking to a NPC or other player right? I mean this my method is good, but I don't think that you can just sit there and push a random combination, and automatically perform a jutsu. You first have to learn the ability, once you learn it,then you can use it. IF you haven't learned it then you can't use. Pushing random buttons would get you nothing.

[shikamaru_nara]

It would take to long to do a justu and in that time you will already be dead .Like if you are gonna do chidori (need handsigns) and the enemy uses rasengan (no handsigns) rasengan hit much faster and you will be dead lol.

i guess you never really paid attention to Naruto He needs seals for rasengan
he needs to create a shoadow clone he doesn't use seals because he mastered the shadow clone jutsu so it depends on you and you only

and it would be cool if you could run around and use those seals!!!! so you go: ox,sp,rabbit,sp,monkey,sp, enemy uses rasengan you jump and use raikiri!!!javascript:emoticonp('')

[shikamaru_nara]

if we used 0-9 and used only 4 digit comibinations, thats 10,000 combinations. I don't think we could ever come up with that many. and if we do this, simple ninjustu would be 4 button combinations, as where killer techniques that do more damage are 8 button techniques. I mean thats a ton of opportunites to learn a bunch of jutsu plus, if we do it this way, we arent taking up as many keys, if we just use 0-9 as one key one move, then you have limited yourself to only 9 moves, and then if you start to add extra letters into there then your skills would be all over your key board, still limiting you to a certain amount of moves.

This system is for learning being able to learn millions of justu, and yeah some will be memory, thats how the Naruto Verse is. Remembering handseals in order to perform your jutsu.


Also, if we wanted, we could break it down more. I have researched that there are only 12 basic handseals

so if we went with a combination like

sign button
1 - 1,2 - Ne
2 - 4,5 - ushi
3 - 7,8 - Torra
4 - 8,9 - etc..
5 - 5,6
6 - 2,3
7 - 1,4
8 - 2,5
9 - 3,6
10 - 4,7
11 - 5,8
12 - 6,9

Spoiler:

This way you would only have to remember a set of 12 digits. and say the combination is something like Ne Ushi Toora, then you need to type in those six digits, this way you can train yourself to remeber what 12 combinations are then eventually you wont need the numbers just the Name (Ne, Ushi, Tora).

Another way I have thought using this same theory, is having 12 buttons be the different signs, this would make it faster.

if you have key pad then you could use

/ * -
789
456
123
(12 buttons)

or the number bar
` 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - = (12 buttons) (if ` is not allowed to be used you cuold use Backspce or [ )

I know im a broken record with my method, I just think that doing this would be more fun the clicking an icon or just one button and having the jutsu automatically work.

EDIT - To add a question, Im hoping that you will have to learn new jutsu by talking to a NPC or other player right? I mean this my method is good, but I don't think that you can just sit there and push a random combination, and automatically perform a jutsu. You first have to learn the ability, once you learn it,then you can use it. IF you haven't learned it then you can't use. Pushing random buttons would get you nothing.

ok you got the point but try this use a technicque for 100 times and then you master it and recieve a technicque macro!

Naruto used seals for shadow clone jutsu 2 or 3 times
and lets say that there is 200 element jutsu's that means that is i'm lightning element i can learn 40 of them, if i have bug manipulation i can learn just 20 of those and if i choose taijustu over chakra control i can learn 10 and if i'm from a sound villiage i get to learn only 2 of element jutsu.
SEE you can just cut it till you get the minimum number
now let's say that i learned thunder god sai jutsu then id have to have my tool stat up and i would be able to master it in 50 succesfull tries and from then on i would have a macro for it(in jounin stage i would get like a thunder gods rasengan)

[Umaterasu]

It would take to long to do a justu and in that time you will already be dead .Like if you are gonna do chidori (need handsigns) and the enemy uses rasengan (no handsigns) rasengan hit much faster and you will be dead lol.

i guess you never really paid attention to Naruto He needs seals for rasengan
he needs to create a shoadow clone he doesn't use seals because he mastered the shadow clone jutsu so it depends on you and you only

and it would be cool if you could run around and use those seals!!!! so you go: ox,sp,rabbit,sp,monkey,sp, enemy uses rasengan you jump and use raikiri!!!javascript:emoticonp('')

If you pay attention in Naruto, you'll realize that not only Naruto can do Rasengan. Jiraiya and Kakashi can do it, and no they don't need to do a Shadow Clone. So Pjotrkiller is right.

[PicMan]

thats a good idea and i like it
make it so that if you do a jutsu
alot of times you *Master* it
then when you master it you
dont have to press the buttons for it
and it becomes a macro
but make it so its realy hard to master

LIKE SAY

*Clone Jutsu*
Button combo=132
But after using it say 500 times
it becomes a macro that you can just click and it will do the jutsu
but even after you master it and get the macro
you can still use the button combo if you want
that way you want have a list full of macros

[Sithex]

fellas from what i remember hand seals can help form a mold as well as call upon a nature chakra (element) if you watch Chidori Kakashi explaines how both hand seals help create the mold and nature of the Jutsu.

Spoiler:

[Nuk3R4z0r]

it's a really good idea for using the keyboard for combinations but we have to take responsiblity for the people living outside america? they don't use an american keyboard set, ex. alot of european countries.

[Rev54]

it's a really good idea for using the keyboard for combinations but we have to take responsiblity for the people living outside america? they don't use an american keyboard set, ex. alot of european countries.

Thats exactally why a keypad would be perfect! Because Numbers are Universal Language!

and if you are playing on a notebook, or a numberpad less keyboard, you can buy one for 10$ (the middle on in the link below, its a plug and play in a usb port also!)
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